Huge problems with I'm Zed's camping

Ok so this is getting simply pathetic, this player called I'm zed(also called cocksucker and pussydestroyer) is involved in insane levels of camping when no ref is around.
I understand that camping is not cheating but the magnitude of his camping just is not fair. For example he just stays in the rail top in dm16, in the bridge at dm6 , at the rail platform in dm17, at the red armor platform in dm8 etc etcand never moves an inch from there. He basically stays there for the whole game and if someone complaints he states that he is the best and its not his fault that others are noobs.
I think such insane levels of camping is simply not fair, either have some big anti camp or give him a warning, it makes the game pretty boring imo.

You are not normal too, para svs have anti-camp.. When you stay in one posision, server will kill you Btw. You are the most camping player on the sv by your ping and using only railgun in one place )) Maybe its "campinghax"???? XDDDDDDDDD cg_campinghard 1 and cg_campinghardcolors "2222" hahahhahah %-) %-)

VERY HUGE PROBLEM OF CAMPER? CAMPING BY OTHER PLAYERS.. BUT ITS NORMAL IN THE WORLD, IF YOU ARE ROBBER, THE ROBBERY OF SOMETHING YOURS BY OTHER ROBBER WILL BE MORE PAINFUL THAN FOR NORMAL HUMAN, NOT ROBBER

That ziggy guy is right.... You are a bit of a camper yourself lol...

Not really, i follow the same path in maps but that doesnt qualify as camping. Have you ever seen me just staying in the rail bridge in dm6 for 10 minutes? I have seen zed doing that, just stays there for the full match. Anyways i hope he doesn't do it again. Camping while quad is about to spawn is a different thing, but staying at one place for 10 minutes is not fun

Well, I saw him play earlier and he didn't camp at all.
When I confronted him, he said he only camps when you play because you camp too. I am inclined to agree with him

toxic wrote:Not really, i follow the same path in maps but that doesnt qualify as camping. Have you ever seen me just staying in the rail bridge in dm6 for 10 minutes? I have seen zed doing that, just stays there for the full match. Anyways i hope he doesn't do it again. Camping while quad is about to spawn is a different thing, but staying at one place for 10 minutes is not fun

Well, 3 days ago You played on Idiots free for all (server dm17 only) and You often operated (or tried to) on the right higher shotgun platform (watching from rail platform side) and stayed there, untill You got fraged. So if thats not camping, then I don't know what is. That You usually got fraged quickly (mostly by me) is another story.

You are inclined to agree with him? on what basis exactly?  By the way i always use different names to play. I use any random name ranging from random abcd's to digits. How does he know that it's me playing? i hardly use the name toxic at all. Infact the top rail frags/deaths award has some or the other variation of my name like fazz and spart1e etc which i use. Anyway, he knows that he camps for days and now just trying to run away from it. I have clearly mentioned that he never camps if any mod is around as he has been made to spec for camping as well many times before. Am i some kind of a maniac that i would make a complaint if there was absolutely no issue at all? If you notice he agreed that he camps and followed it up with when he sees me around. He is not even denying the fact, he does not step aside at all unless someone threatens to call the mod. Anyways i am just asking him to stop camping, that was the whole issue here, nothing too serious but it's extremely annoying and makes players quit.
But still i dont understand why you are agreeing to him more than me, why this innate bias against me? I used to tell raz when he had the ref about any cheaters in other servers so that they could be banned here. I do the same thing in cccp server. I'm obviously been in quake long enough(from 2004 to be precise so close to 12 years now) to be responsible and not make any threads without a reason. It wasn't anything too huge anyway. If he stops camping throughout the whole map then it's gonna be cool. Sometimes camping can be fun if u just want to annoy some of your friends(used to camp in h$ server in portal for a couple mins after getting drunk af ) but constant camping in every map becomes annoying don't you think?

Booones wrote:

toxic wrote:Not really, i follow the same path in maps but that doesnt qualify as camping. Have you ever seen me just staying in the rail bridge in dm6 for 10 minutes? I have seen zed doing that, just stays there for the full match. Anyways i hope he doesn't do it again. Camping while quad is about to spawn is a different thing, but staying at one place for 10 minutes is not fun

Well, 3 days ago You played on Idiots free for all (server dm17 only) and You often operated (or tried to) on the right higher shotgun platform (watching from rail platform side) and stayed there, untill You got fraged. So if thats not camping, then I don't know what is. That You usually got fraged quickly (mostly by me) is another story.

Boones you know very well that almost everyone camps in a free for all dm17 rail match. Poly camps there, Holland whenever he plays camps there. The area where i stand is the safest place as no spawns come there. Plus even top players there also camp from time to time. Are you seriously trying to compare a dm17 instagib camping from a aw ffa camping? Players camp there to avoid being constantly spawn fragged. And if you had a 400 ping you would know that avoiding spawn frag in an open map is impossible. Heck i have even seen some players like Phander( a pro like you) and orbu777 also camp there when the server had 15-20 players. For a player who is skilled and claims to know things by just looking at them instantly, thats honestly very careless to be comparing the two.
You haven't even seen my play ever, neither have you seen zed so why this bias against me?

Only noobs camp on dm17.

There is no bias against you, I just tell it as I see it. I've checked him out, I didn't see him camp. I have seen you camp. I confronted him. He calls you a camper. You call him a camper.

I don't see how I could draw a different conclusion than this one...

toxic wrote:

Booones wrote:

toxic wrote:Not really, i follow the same path in maps but that doesnt qualify as camping. Have you ever seen me just staying in the rail bridge in dm6 for 10 minutes? I have seen zed doing that, just stays there for the full match. Anyways i hope he doesn't do it again. Camping while quad is about to spawn is a different thing, but staying at one place for 10 minutes is not fun

Well, 3 days ago You played on Idiots free for all (server dm17 only) and You often operated (or tried to) on the right higher shotgun platform (watching from rail platform side) and stayed there, untill You got fraged. So if thats not camping, then I don't know what is. That You usually got fraged quickly (mostly by me) is another story.

Boones you know very well that almost everyone camps in a free for all dm17 rail match. Poly camps there, Holland whenever he plays camps there. The area where i stand is the safest place as no spawns come there. Plus even top players there also camp from time to time. Are you seriously trying to compare a dm17 instagib camping from a aw ffa camping? Players camp there to avoid being constantly spawn fragged. And if you had a 400 ping you would know that avoiding spawn frag in an open map is impossible. Heck i have even seen some players like Phander( a pro like you) and orbu777 also camp there when the server had 15-20 players.

Yep, camping on dm17 instagib is a common thing, and I never made any claims to You about it. I don't like camping, but actually I accept it as a playing style. But since You came up here with complaints about someone camping, then I think it should be said, that You do the same thing on some maps\servers. And Yes, I compare dm17 insta with all weapons. Doesn't matter what server, what mod and what map, camping is always camping.

For a player who is skilled and claims to know things by just looking at them instantly, thats honestly very careless to be comparing the two.[/quote]Now whats that all about? Is this some kind of an allusion to my actions against You, when I said I spotted You (or a player that used Your nick) cheating on another server? The easiest way to spot cheaters is to play against them or spectate them. Some times it's not easy to get proof of someone cheating, even if the cheat visually is very obvius. I do admit, that I made a mistake in Your case though, because I couldn't back my words with evidence and I'm not 100% sure, that it was You playing, and not a name stealer. Most cheating cases though are far more simple and don't rase any controversy. You know that.

toxic wrote:

Booones wrote:

toxic wrote:Not really, i follow the same path in maps but that doesnt qualify as camping. Have you ever seen me just staying in the rail bridge in dm6 for 10 minutes? I have seen zed doing that, just stays there for the full match. Anyways i hope he doesn't do it again. Camping while quad is about to spawn is a different thing, but staying at one place for 10 minutes is not fun

Well, 3 days ago You played on Idiots free for all (server dm17 only) and You often operated (or tried to) on the right higher shotgun platform (watching from rail platform side) and stayed there, untill You got fraged. So if thats not camping, then I don't know what is. That You usually got fraged quickly (mostly by me) is another story.

You haven't even seen my play ever, neither have you seen zed so why this bias against me?

Yes I did see You play. Last time it was 4 days ago. And I have no bias against You. I'm sure You remember our recent friendly conversations about old days of q3a.

i wont side with anyone in this matter. but zed definitely camps. even when tox is not around. on q3dm6 he camps the rail. on q3dm12 he will camp at the roof above the water. on q3dm15 he stands at rail the whole game. on q3dm17 he stands at the rail platform. but thats what tox do alot too lol walking from side to side. dont know which one of them who were worst lol. lisa threw tox and zed into spec few times for this exact reason when players complained to us they were camping

i have to say that this topic is pretty pointless regardless. it wont stop camping. it wont lead to anything. its part of the game. u cant be banned for camping. just as ziper wants to complain about me yesterday voting maps. yea i voted two maps (u get two callvotes per map per player) and he said he would complain to para about it. too funny and laughable. now i am waiting for the punishment for my evil map voting that didnt even pass

Boones wrote:Well, 3 days ago You played on Idiots free for all (server dm17 only) and You often operated (or tried to) on the right higher shotgun platform (watching from rail platform side) and stayed there, untill You got fraged. So if thats not camping, then I don't know what is. That You usually got fraged quickly (mostly by me) is another story. Very Happy

yeah every time when i played dm17 with tox he stayed on that right platform and camping.. DM6 railgun platform, dm15 railgun platform next to battle suit and bfg jump pad, dm17 all weapon railgun platform and right higher shotgun platform, dm14 rail and going to place with red armor, hiding behind pillar, dm16 upper railgun after long jump pad, dm7 railgun and camping from right side of place with rocketlauncher, not 'rocket launcher room', 2nd place with rocket, hmmm... dm12, 2 railguns, 2 place to camping

@Razor... You asked many time tox or he asked you "change to dm7 or dm12?"(always this 2 maps), then you join, callvote one of that 2 maps and go to spect because q3 have 'bug'.. You join was 6 players in game, make vote and join spect, after this server count players to vote "5" without you, but your "vote yes" is still accepted.. When this trick dont work, tox vote and both go to spect so that vote have 2 votes above program.. In easy words, you cheating on callvote beacause people really don't want this map and the most strange thing in this situation is that you doesn't play this maps usually, you change this for railgun map for your friend tox to camping whole 10 minutes lol... %-) %-)

zippy wrote:@Razor... You asked many time tox or he asked you "change to dm7 or dm12?"(always this 2 maps), then you join, callvote one of that 2 maps and go to spect because q3 have 'bug'.. You join was 6 players in game, make vote and join spect, after this server count players to vote "5" without you, but your "vote yes" is still accepted.. When this trick dont work, tox vote and both go to spect so that vote have 2 votes above program.. In easy words, you cheating on callvote beacause people really don't want this map and the most strange thing in this situation is that you doesn't play this maps usually, you change this for railgun map for your friend tox to camping whole 10 minutes lol... %-) %-)

If this is true then that won't make me very happy...

when less players in game, less vote yes for pass this.. On example 5 players + 2 noobs tox and razor = 7. One make vote, when 7 players in-game, 2 vote yes from noobs, they go to spect, now server counting 5 players in that vote, but accept to 2 votes, now you must have only one other vote. When they will stay in game, server count 7 so they must have 2 votes more not one, its that trick/cheat

Check logs from yesterday evening it enough, they do it more than one time %-)

I am aware of the bug. I kicked people often for it on para tricks. I am not very happy when that bug gets exploited.

Thank you for the notification.

its an unfixable bug without the source code or a patch. alot of players tend to do it. but noob ziper dont bring that up. the same vote pass issue exists when a player calls a vote and disconnects and its counted just as when someone goes spec

i remember telling toxic when i was still ref to not disconnect while a vote is still running as it passes on a "gay" map as he called it

yeah and that way, yestarday you said to tox "vote to dm12" and both do things like i side above.. But when you was ref, you don't do anything wrong and even warn tox by do it that kind of things blablablablablabla... ))))))))) and others are skinhaxes like you said in public yestarday too "only me and terror don't have skinhax", so shut up finally and play normal, don't be pussy like you are, don't explain your weak results in sv because anyone don't take it for serious, you losed and its fact like toxic "bad day", "bad players", "bad mouse", "bad screen" , "arm hurts", "im drunk"... You are only weak noob like your friend razor and accept that and probably you hacking sometimes TROLLLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

ehmmm... okay....